NETSURFER DIGEST

Letters to the Editor #02.19


Thursday, Jun 20, 1996

Kudos and Compliments

Just a quick note to let you know how much I enjoy your publication. I have found it to be of excellent quality and I have recommended it to several of my friends. I find it the first place I look when I am getting ready to spend some time wandering around the net. Keep up the good work and thank you for providing such a timely and useful item :)

The Schoonovers

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Just completed my first digest... It was great... Got some excellent urls. Tanx alot for netsurfer. Will be looking forward for the next digest.

Michael Zdyrko

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Its been over a year and i am so pleased i subscribed to netsurfer digest last year or longer. Really no shit! good stuff that is usefull and keeps me ahead of my dweeb associates and clients. "i be phat"

keep up the good work, but be carefull some of your reviews are begining to read like press releases from the corporate world. you know as if no one went to that site. that frightens me, pretty soon one media company will be controling the world.

have you considered special issues dedicated to specific issues and topics? ie, medicine, health, journals (literature), etc.

thank you Mark Dimor

We were going to call Netsurfer "Phat B Us", but we had to change plans when our stationery came back printed "Fat Bus". We do have special issues on occasion, generally devoted to issues or happenings rather than the subjects we cover every week. If we see more support for that sort of thing, we could be led down that path.

- LN

Hello,

I've been subscribed for a while, but I've never actually submitted or anything. I wanted to say thank you for the service. It's a pity I hardly get time to look at the sites you review.

Regards,

Jason Cutler

Gee, thanks. I guess you must read us for our sparkling wit and wordcraft then....

- LN

Ciao! I've been getting Netsurfer Digest from the beginning. I think I even have your very first "E" issue tucked away somewhere in my computer.

Your reviews just keep getting better and better... Your latest issue actually had me laughing out loud.. First time that has happened at my computer. My co-workers are really beginning to worry about me now!

Keep up the great work. I really enjoy seeing all your issues. THANK YOU!

Mike Frick

(p.s.- You may want to check out a great art site at: www.scultura.com)

Better? Or bitter? And if you've read all our issues, you know we covered you last October 2, right?

- LN

That's right, you did.... I forgot about that one (can we consider that long-term memory loss? ). All of you are doing a really great job. How are things going there... have you been expanding?

Mike Frick

I've been expanding, but mostly because I no longer walk to work. We're up to about 60,000 e-mail subscribers and 300,000 hits a month, which we figure is another 50,000 readers or so.

- LN

What a beauty!

And I haven't begun to read it yet. At last a white background, and Microsoft as a sponsor!

I was one of the original beta testers. I've changed job since then, but I'm glad I kept taking the e-mails.

Adam Nealis

Speaking of Microsoft....

We don't hate Microsoft - really, we don't

Hey!

Did you loose your job at Microsoft or is your portfolio filled with Netscape stock? Whatsa matter with it? Bugged that cnet sotra liked it? Bill Gates fail to have you be the Godfather?

Your panning of Explorer3 is simply unwarrented. Do you think that Microsoft is loosing sleep that they don't have Java yet?

Ummmm, wonder what you'll say when Netscape plays catchup with a new interface to replace their current clunky countenance.

Chance Smith

I didn't think our article (NSD 2.17) panned the software at all. The only negative we had to say about it concerned its lack of Java support. Java was one of THE big deals at InternetWorld conference and every other industry press release that crosses my desktop talks about it. We stand by the statement that it's probably a mistake not to have included Java support. As far as the rest, we either didn't comment or called it "spiffy". We do think c/net's review was a bit over the top, and said so.

Our article didn't glorify Explorer either, mind you. Which isn't a bad thing, considering it's our new sponsor. The Web review was written before we secured the ad.

- LN

Unsubscribing problems

Dear Editor,

Sorry to bother you but I unsubscribed from your service a couple of months ago only to find that I am once again receiving postings from your server. I have tried in vain to unsubcribe again. I would be grateful if you would pass on the task of unsubscribing me to the relevant person.

Thank you.

David Toney

I have been trying to unsubscribe to your mailing list for weeks. Each time I send an unsubscribe I get a confirmation and then a few days later the digest arrives again. PLEASE, PLEASE, *UNSUBSCRIBE* ME FROM THE MAILING LIST. My original address was gmcf@mpx.com.au.

Thank you in anticipation.

Geoffrey Fletcher

We get messages of this sort too frequently. When you unsubscribe, you must do so with the exact address you subscribed with, down to the very last exact same letter of any exact same subdomain. A good way to determine the correct address is to check the incoming Digest for the address to which it is sent. Of course, you must still be able to mail from that address, as our automaton ignores unsubscribe requests for someone@x.com that come from someone@mail.x.com, for example.

- LN

Mac News

Thank you very much for the Macintosh news and information. I was thinking about canceling my subsciption until I started to notice more and more Macintosh related information.

Leland Raymond III, D.D.S.

About 25% of our readers use Macs. About 100% of Netsurfer Digest Editors do. I try to strike a balance between the camps.

- LN

Apple and its turnaround plan

In NSD 2.15 you referred to the One True Computing MacGod. I thought you might enjoy an essay I wrote on that theme 10 years ago: The Computer as God? My thesis was that we were refighting the Protestant Reformation in the 1980's. The Computer was God, Steve Jobs was Martin Luther (who said every man ought to talk directly to his own computer) and IBM the Roman Catholic Church (Don Estridge was Ignatius Loyola). The essay is available on my Web page at www.elew.com.

The religious aspects of Apple's culture will make its turnaround extremely difficult.

Ed Lee

So who are the Jews? The original coders (they were called programmers then, no?) at Xerox? The ENIAC group? C?

- LN

Had never thought of that before you asked (since the Jews didn't figure in the Reformation), but now that you asked the answer is clear: the hardware engineers who designed and built the computers. It was their concepts about the computer that dictated its 1010 (binary 10) commandments. Once the software guys (programmers, Christians) got hold of the machines they pretty well ignored anything the engineers had to say about it.... Their attitude is that the world is about software, not hardware.

That of course makes me one of the Jews (I'm an electrical engineer who helped to design the first solid state computer at Burroughs ElectroData in the late '50s).....which explains my cynical attitude towards software professionals for the last 40 years. I've watched the software guys usurp the computer, and then disown some of the principles and all the people who made their religion possible.

Xerox, by the way, is more like the Greek Orthodox church... first with the icons!

Anyway... great question, and the metaphor holds up on even a grander scale!

Ed Lee

Spelling is important to publishing

The anti-Apple bias is blatantly obvious in today's article regarding Apple's online business plan. Anyone writing an article for an e-zine ought to at least be able to spell names correctly (it is Tesler NOT Testler). This was my first visit to your publication.

Buzz Hill

Uhhh, no. I've been using Macs since 1985. Netsurfer Digest is put together on my three-month-old 7200/90. Heck, I'm even an Evangalista getting Guy Kawasaki's MACWAY digest. We don't have the resources to fact-check everything. We made a spelling mistake, yes, but that doesn't automatically equate to an anti-Apple bias.

- LN

Do you want us to come make you some tea, too?

Hi, there.

I am having problems with my ISP. Could you please let me know if your mail bounces back? I need to know in order to inform their technical support.

Sorry about this,

Thanks :-)

Paolo

This isn't a task I eagerly perform, but catch me on the right day and I might even do it for you. I don't remember if Paolo caught me on the right day....

- LN

How not to request a review

The Chlorine Chemistry Council is proud to announce their new web site. Chlorine is an essential elemental building block. This site is designed to promote better understanding of the science of chlorine chemistry and its role in products and processes that enhance our quality of life and standard of living.

We would appreciate it if you would review and create a link of this site to yours. The url to the site is: http://c3.org/ Our e-mail address is: info@c3.org.

If you do create a link, please let us know, so we may be able to find it on your web site. Thank you very much for your help.

Hey, do you guys know Paolo? If you want to submit your site to the Digest, at least pretend to read it, OK?

- LN

But wait...I really like chlorine. Drink it every day and use liberally in my spicy chicken salad recipe. Oh, I see, we just did give them a link, didn't we.

- Arthur

How not to send a press release

Here is a copy of our press release, in WORD 6.0 format. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to mail me.

Name withheld to save face

Pay attention, kids: 1) I don't use Word 6.0. 2) I trash unsolicited attachments. So do most other Net journalists I know.

- LN

Links in HTML newsletter don't work

As 80 gazillion people have probably mentioned to you, the links to other places on the newsletter don't work. Must not have a jump name set. FYI

Ed Callaway

And then....

I lied - the links to other places in the HTML newsletter do work, when you open the newsletter as a file in Netscape. However, they don't work in the mail area. I think that they used to, so I'll pass the word on to Netscape.

Ed

Are you using the Netscape 3.0 beta? We have had two other people report this, and both problems were found to be with that software.

- LN

Re: Review

Hey thanks -

We read the review and enjoyed all of the positive comments. We will definitely put it on our "Thanks" page. Also, we really liked the fact someone noticed our use of white space ("umm, blackspace").

It means a lot to the staff here at Enter to be recognized by Netsurfer Digest. We like how you review sites. It allows the reader to get a good feel about what the site is all about before you go there.

Thanks again,

Andrew Vitale Publisher

Thanks Andrew, but you and all the other Web developers out there deserve the praise, not us.

- LN

How to use the HTML version

Dear Editor,

This may sound like a message from a novice, and well it should. The messages I receive from Netsurfer are coming in formatted in a strange way, with various symbols, etc. Very difficult to read. I'm sure it has something to do with which version of your letter I'm getting. I'm connected through Internet provider and use Eudora Light to download and read my messages. I'm using Windows 95 on a PC. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Ed Perva

What makes people named Ed send us mail, anyway? This is covered somewhere in the first mailing you get from us, but here's a reminder:

1) Save the incoming html Digest as a text file with a suffix of ".htm" or ".html", such as "NSD22.htm" (NOT "NSD22.txt.htm" though; one dot only per file name).

2) Open a text processor (your e-mail program may work, too) and the text file you saved in step 1, and delete the e-mail header (everything before but not including the first (HTML) line). This is an optional step to make it look nicer. Save the file.

3) Open your Web browser. In the "File" menu there should be a command like "Open File". Use this to find the saved digest on your hard drive and open it.

- LN

URL???

A satire newspaper featuring world, national and community news, entertainment news, as well as humor, advice, horoscopes and cartoons. The online version of the popular parody newspaper published since 1989, circulation 70,000.

Name withheld by decree

(sigh) You can't imagine how many people forget the URL with their announcement in the heat of the moment....

- LN

Headlines

Netsurfer Editor:

The Netsurfer Digest is a valued tool. I appreciate the brief paragraphs introducing the possibilities associated with each site. The headers, when presented without the supporting text, are more effective puzzlers than informers. The attempts at lightness tends to obscure the content. I'm uncertain about what I would do were I assigned the responsibility of writing the banners for each URL, but one change I would make would be sure that levity did not obfuscate.

Sincerely,

Stan Detering

Yeah, I get carried away sometimes. Our writers help out, too. We'll try to improve.

- LN

Bovine growth hormone

In a message dated 96-06-02 03:30:54 EDT, you write:

>Ben and Jerry's home page. Their adamant if possibly misguided stand
>against rBGH (bovine growth hormone) is spelled out in detail.

The Netsurfer Digest is great. However, I fully agree with Ben and Jerry on the subject of rBGH and was disappointed to see your editorial comment that they were "possibly misguided".

Renee Lewis

If I have a bias I bring to NSD, it's my contempt for pseudoscience. I'll almost never put astrology, homeopathy, or similar fiction disguised as fact in NSD (unless it's done with particular aplomb and humor) because I think it's potentially harmful, physically or mentally.

On humans, rBGH has no direct effect. It is a hormone, and hormones are proteins, and proteins are destroyed during digestion. It may have some minor detrimental effects on cows, but is cow welfare a fair trade-off for human comfort? Who knows - certainly not me. But it's possible it is, and it's possible that the rage against rBGH is misguided. One of the consequences of the availability of knowledge in our society is that little nothings - like Malar on apples - blow up into big bruhahas. Big problems, like Mad Cow Disease, also blow up. It's hard to tell the difference, so why not help out with a snide remark?

- LN

The Internet is a sexless place

Regarding Sung Chang -

The SHE you mentioned, is actually a HE. The internet is a sexless place. Bill Mitchell's 'City of Bits' has a comic with two dogs in front of a computer, caption reading "On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog."

Elizabeth L. Kang

I know. The URL changed the day we sent out the Digest. It happens. I contacted Sung Chang and found out our writer was mistaken in sexing him. It happens to me all the time, for more obvious reasons (Males named "Laurie" are a Canadian/Brit habit).

Oddly - or maybe not - Sung himself sent me the same Bill Mitchell quote.

- LN (a.k.a. Laurie)

NSDTV

Just wanted to let you know that both of you did a great job on the recently broadcast edition of PBS's "Life on the Internet". I missed the first run, but found out about (and subsequently subscribed to) Netsurfer from the feature on PBS's page that accompanies the series. So when I caught a rebroadcast of the episode last week, I really enjoyed the fact that I was already just slightly familiar with the work you're doing. Getting to put your faces to your names and hear the commentary re: the hows and whys was a real treat.

Thanks for the great work you're doing. I really appreciate and value your advice and guidance.

Pat Oregon

Who you saw on the show was Arthur Bebak, our esteemed publisher and editor emeritus and Sun Ming, not me. I was just a flunky then, only dreaming of holding the fates of the likes of you in my palm. Now, though I wield the power I do, I'm still bitter over missing out on the TV op, especially since it was a Canadian production, and Canada is my home and native land, glorious and free.

- LN

I recently saw a piece on Discovery Channel's Cyberlife about your company and I wanted to let you know it gave me additional Inspiration to get my own business site up and running. Hope I didn't waste too much of your time with this fluff!

Thanks, Andre Barbeau

Ditto.

- LN


Publisher: Arthur Bebak
Editor: Lawrence Nyveen

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